Saturday, May 15, 2010

Notes on the Recruiting Trail....

Well, we have one final week to go before all college coaches will be going back to their schools armed with scouting reports, highlight film, transcripts and a whole lot more. Here are some notes on the players that are in our top-10 and go from there....

1. Antoine Arnold (Ath. Chaparral) -- He has offers but there is not one college coach that has expressed confidence that this kid is going to make it. A lot of the offers that are on the table are "conditional" offers and the basis that if he makes it, he'll have a scholarship. He has talent to play on Sunday, but he could very well be playing JC ball next year if he doesn't get his academics in order.

2. Devon Blackmon (WR/DB, Summit) -- Has been offered seemingly by everyone in the country. In talking to people in the know, they have no idea where he wants to go. So if you read an Internet article saying that this kid is leaning to this school or that school, it's so wrong. This is a player that truly can wait until signing day to make his decision.

3. Ifo Ekpre-Olumu (DB, Chino Hills) -- The leader clearly is Oregon and it's also the best offer on the table. But he seems like a scheme fit kid. I find it extremely interesting that Washington hasn't offered the kid (and they have one of the best up and coming DB coaches in the conference in Demetrius Martin) and I had one Mountain West Conference school tell me that they are not going after the kid because they question his speed to play in their scheme at corner. I don't see an offer coming from USC nor UCLA... he might just have to be all over that Oregon offer..if I was counseling the kid.

4. Junior Pomee (TE, Rancho Verde) -- His best offer to date is UCLA, but word has it that he is going to Arizona's one-day camp on Sunday June 6th. I find it interesting that he is going to that camp instead of the UCLA one-day camp. But don't put a lot into it. UCLA has another skills camp on Sunday, June 20th. Rancho Verde has had a strong pipeline to the University of Arizona, so UCLA may have a big-time fight on their hands if they want to this kid's services....

5. Kelsey Young (RB, Norco) -- It looks like this prospect is a strong Stanford commit. There is no talk from anyone that this kid is wavering in his word to Stanford.

6. Todd Handley (RB, Riverside King) -- Now this one shocks the heck out of me. I can't believe for the life of me that this kid doesn't have an offer. He has run an electronic 40 yard dash in 4.54 FOR TWO CONSECUTIVE YEARS and he has some of the best film that you will see. I think he is just as fast and just as good as Loyola RB Jared Baker (who has an offer from Arizona on the table). This kid is good and whoever gets him will be getting such a great RB. It's a shame that he doesn't have an offer right now.

7. Devante Wilson (DE, Corona) -- If I had a category for players that are losing steam, he would head the list. First came an "questionable" hamstring injury at the Nike Combine and then his non-performance at the Nike Camp had people (like myself) very much concerned. College coaches are really starting to watch the game and realizing that this kid takes way too many plays off their liking. You would have thought that a kid of his size and ability would have at least 20 offers on the of right now, he only has two in Arizona and Colorado.

8. Darius Gulliory (WR, Chaparral) -- Last year we really liked Corona Roosevelt WR Austin Hill because he was just a stud. When time came for CR to make a play, they went to Hill time and again. Well, to the class of 2011 version of Austin Hill in this guy. He just comes up so well on film, it's not funny. He has offers from Nevada Reno and San Diego State. I don't think he'll be a Pac-10 guy, but he is an awfully nice football player.

9 Josh Armstrong (CB, Redlands East Valley) -- This begins the first of the many players that I think could get offered when many coaches get back into their offices to meet as a staff. I just love this kid and the way that he plays -- and he is getting a lot of stuff from a lot of DB coaches. I am sticking with my high grade on this kid. I can see a school like San Jose St. coming after this player. He is very solid.

10. Dominique Williams (WR, Garey) -- This is another kid that is very quietly getting a lot of attention from WR coaches. I had one Mountain West Conference school that is in love with the kid. Now, he has some academic issues that he has to clean up (but they are not as bad me). He is one of my sleepers for the class of 2011. I found him first!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Saturday, May 8, 2010

Updated Top-10 For Class of 2011 -- Spring Edition

Here is our updated top-10 as we hit the midway point of the evaluation period...

Quick notes about the top-10....

* Reports are coming in that Chaparral WR Antoine Arnold might not qualify for any offers due to his grades. He would be wise to take the route that ex-Centennial LB Vontaze Burfict took to get qualified....

* I get the feeling that Devon Blackmon will end up at BCS school outside the west coast... I just get the feeling from talking to the people on the inside from Summit...

* Olumu is the top recruit on a lot of board. But there is one Pac-10 school that has a low grade on him... such a shame. The kid's highlight tape is legit...

* If I was a betting man, I'd say that Pomee will end up at UCLA....

* Can't believe that no one has thrown down an offer to Handley. Whoever gets him is getting a gem!!!... He's that good....

* Wilson is losing some steam from teams that are concerned that he doesn't want to compete at the highest level...

* In our opinion, Guillory has the right offers from the right schools....

* And we are sticking to our guns in regards to REV CB Josh Armstrong. We gave him a high grade and we are sticking by it. He has a nice highlight tape....

Wednesday, February 17, 2010

Third Tier of Prospects 21-30

Here are our third "tier" of players ranked from 21-30.

This is where you'll find a lot of offensive prospects - which includes several QB's that we are going to follow very closely in 2010.

Tuesday, February 16, 2010

Our Second Ten....

Here is our second Top-10 (call it our second tier on our board) from 11-20.

As you look at our second tier, take note of the fact that we have three offensive lineman that we really like. It's kinda of unheard of to have this many lineman that we like early that are highly rated.

Tonight, we'll post our third tier of players..

Monday, February 15, 2010

Updated Top-10 For Class of 2011

Here is our first top-10 list of college prospects for the class of 2011. Our "second 10" from 11-20 will be up tomorrow.

The two prospects that I think will blow up during the early evaluation period are Kelsey Young of Norco and Taj Teague of Pomona. Young is from a great stable of running backs at Norco and Teague looks the part of film and on paper.

We always have a kid that is a nominally with us and this year that kid is Wilson of Corona. I've said that he is this year's version of George Uko. Takes plays off, but when the light flips on, he can be a great player. He does have an offer from Colorado following their summer camp last summer, but I will be very interested to see how it goes.

Sunday, February 14, 2010

Derrick Brown - Could the Wildcat be in his future?

As we begin the 2011 recruiting cycle, I've been asked more than a few times about Vista Murrieta quarterback Derrick Brown.

Well, after simmering about this for the past couple of weeks, I have come to the conclusion about this kid that he is only fit for one offense... the Wildcat.

We watched nine games on this prospect last season, and there are some compelling evidence to think he can make it to the next level. Among those factors are:

1) Size
2) Toughness

But, when it comes to the position of quarterback, you need more than that. You need to throw the ball really well and be consistent with it. With Brown, you don't get that. He misses receivers in the short to intermediate zone consistently and his ball seems to be going all over the place. Plus, we question whether he can throw the deep ball with any accuracy.

But, he is really tough to tackle, can get the tough yards and manages a great game. But, to be successful at the next level, you need to really good at the HS and he is clearly not there yet.

So will a college spend a scholarship on a kid that is a "Wildcat" offensive QB. Time will tell. But, he is one heck of a punter!

Sunday, January 24, 2010

WAC Recruiting for Class of 2010 in IE....

And finally - here is how the WAC is shaping up in the IE....

You can bet that there is some information not being reported. We will stay on it as much as possible.

As you would expect, Fresno State has to be considered the team that has done well in the area. The kids that they wanted they either got...or lost to the Pac-10. Losing the recruiting battle for Scott of Colony had to hurt - but they finished very strongly.

Nevada Reno also did pretty well - winning some battles - and losing some too! But, in this conference, you have to take your shots.

New Mexico State was choosy with their offers and came up a bit short. Yeah getting Darian Johnson was huge, but I thought they could have competed a lot better for some other players.

San Jose State was another school that finished very well with their kids that they offered late. If they get either Fafita or Dash, I think you can consider 2010 a success.

Hawaii came up strong. And for the first time that I can remember neither Idaho or Boise St. will sign a player in the area. Don't look for that to last long next year.

Information is courtesy of and

Mountain West Conference Recuiting 2010 in the IE

OK... so you have a look at the Pac-10. Now let's go into the Mountain West Conference and see the breakdown.

One other item we added. Players in yellow are prospects that have given a verbal to a BCS conference school.

The big winner. No question. Utah! They offered a total of 132 players - 42 in California - and got verbals from four players. They only player that they didn't get a commit from is Keith Smith of Charter Oak HS (and since he verballed to San Jose St. you can assume that Utah dropped the offer). They lost some players to the Pac-10, but they got what they wanted. Clearly the USC of the Mountain West Conference.

The big loser. Easily it's Colorado St. Not only did they lose players to the Pac-10, but they lost some players to their conference rivals. Even if they get a verbal from Dancy at Mt. SAC, they clearly didn't do as good a job as they can. 2011 becomes a pivotal year.

The school with the biggest unknown factor. San Diego State. They offered a mind numbing 95 players in the state of California and - as of right now - have 28 verbals. So, you can easily say that they are at the limit for their class. And they have verbals from unknown players like Beavers of Banning and Quinley of Granite Hills. The headliner is Muema of Charter Oak. We'll see what happens.

IE Recruiting in the Pac-10 for Class of 2010...

People always ask me how a college recruits and how many offers they throw out there when you are in the zenith of the recruiting season in the spring. Well, I put together a chart how many players were offered by the school nationally, in the state of California and in the Inland Empire/San Gabriel Valley. What you might see will astound you.

The players in bold are the committed players while the italized players are the un-committed players.

So what does this show? That not all schools are on the same players... and that some schools are real choosy with their offers and some are not.

For instance, it interesting to note that the Oregon schools were the only one's not to offer Shirley (along with Cal). It's also interesting to note that Oregon State was the only Pac-10 school not to offer Don Lugo DE George Uko.

As for the leader in throwing out offers... Stanford leads the way with 228. But, its really interesting to note that Washington lead all Pac-10 schools with the number of offers to kids in the state of California with 79. And Arizona led all Pac-10 schools by offers 12 players in the Inland Empire.

Usually, if a schools gets two players from an area, it's considered a good job.

Well look at USC. They led the conference with fewest offers thrown out throughout the country with 69, second fewest offers in California with 28 (Stanford only had 27) but the hit rate in the IE is remarkable in 2010. They offered six players in the IE, got four commitments and are in line to get a fifth with Shirley. The power of SC really hits home when you look at a chart like this.

Also, interesting to note Oregon State has the view recruiting in the IE as a bit of a disappointment. It can be argued that they got the kicker from Centennial in Romiane and a undervalued DB in Donnell Welch from Palm Desert. But the three other players that they offered, they lost in heated recruiting battles to Washington, Oregon and Arizona State.

California and Stanford also have to view recruiting in the area as a bit of a disappointment too.

And - as you would expect - Washington State cuts from a different cloth in recruiting. The only player that they offered that was a multiple Pac-10 offer kid was Derrick Malone of Colton. Everyone else were players that we're not offered at all or were offered by Mountain West Conference or WAC schools.

On Tuesday, we'll look at the Mountain West Conference.

The numbers are courtesy of

Friday, January 22, 2010

A welcome to my neighbors in the SGV....

I didn't know that Fred Robledo would do this, but I want to welcome those that read our stuff on the SGV Tribune's high school blog ( to our blog.

Out here, we talk IE football recruiting. Now, the best way to follow me is to go on twitter and follow us at I twitter a lot more than I blog.

That will change starting next week. We just have been very busy with signing day close to becoming a reality.

I will put a new article up every day starting on Monday. The one thing that we don't allow for is comments. I just see that it gets out of hand on the SGV Trib blog, I don't want to be a policeman here.

If you have any questions, you can twitter them to me or you can drop me a line at

Thanks for all the kind words and welcome to the 909 and 951!

Wednesday, January 13, 2010

The Kiffin Effect in the IE....

With the announcement of Lane Kiffin as the new HC at USC and Ed Orgeron as the new Recruiting Coordinator, that has a huge effect on the some of the IE best high school football prospects for the class of 2010. Let's take a look...

Ronald Powell (DE, Rancho Verde, 6-3, 240, 4.8e) - You better be sure that USC will be recruiting this player very hard. If there is one thing that Orgeron loves is a battle and he will not be scared with the fact that has to compete against Florida for this kid. Deep down in his heart, this kid has always loved SC. And if there is one guy that can get a kid to decommitt from one school to go to another... it's Orgeron. I'd be safe to say that Powell at best could be a soft commit to Florida right now.

Josh Shirley (OLB/DE, Kaiser, 6-3 1/2, 209, 4.57HT) -- USC has always wanted this kid to come to LA. He has waited a longtime to figure out where he wants to so. I have never thought that this kid was all that excited about SC, but that was before Orgeron entered the picture. I think he is there for SC to get. I am will to say that when all is said and done, he'll be a SC commit.

Possible Late Interest

Deantre Lewis (RB, Norco, 5-11, 174, 4.38HT) -- This is Oregeron's type of kid. He is a game changing RB that reminds some of Reggie Bush. Despite having a average night in the IE All-Star Game, he's senior highlight tape takes your breath away. Only hitch in this is if Todd McNair returns as RB coach. If they lose any kids at the RB position in the next couple of days in recruiting, I would not be surprised to see him get a late push from Kiffin. Insiders tell us that Oregon is coming in late on the prospect.

In checking around the area, it looks like the players that are committed to USC are keep strong to their word. All I will say that if Orgeron gets Powell and Shirley, it's a another slam dunk in the area for the men of Troy.

Saturday, January 2, 2010

Inland Empire All-Star Coverage

We will be at the San Bernardino All-Star game practices this week.

We will be providing with practice notes each day as we get you ready for the game Saturday. I will also be providing you with recruiting news each day during the week.

And next week we start looking in depth at the 2011 recruiting class.

Happy New Year to you all.

January 2010 Prospects....

Happy New Year to one and all.

As we begin the last month of recruiting for the class of 2010, colleges are moving into position to trip players, offer players and get their verbal commitments. Since we also include the San Gabriel Valley, here are the best position players on our board that have caught the eye of asst. coaches during the month of December.


Angel Santiago (Etiwanda, 5-11, 165, 4.83) -- Basically, the schools that run the triple option are in love with the kid He has a trip to the Army in the first week in January and Cal Poly San Luis Obispo is planning to trip the kid out in mid January (if his test scores pan out). Just love the way this kid performs. He is a tough kid that could play defense if the occasion calls for it. He was the voted the Baseline League’s Most Valuable player and its for all the right reasons.

Blake Loncar (Los Osos, 6-4, 207, 5.12HT) -- In this business of recruiting, if you have good senior tape, that’s just not going to be good enough for a lot of D-1 coaches. And that was the case with this guy. You could tell in watching the official game tape of the CIF championship game that Upland wanted to make this guy beat them with their feet. Has the size and arm strength to being a real good D-1 QB. Most likely, this kid will be playing JC football somewhere and if he gets into the right team, he’ll produce.

Ryan Orozco (Ayala, 6-4, 200, 5.10e) -- Initially, this kid didn’t make my top 100 list for most of the season because he had no junior tape after transferring from Orange Lutheran to Ayala. Has a bit of a long release, but delivers a good ball and - most importantly - can take snaps under center. He is a getting a bit of late evaluations from the D-1AA schools, and has a preferred walk-on offer from USC. Another that I can see have a very productive JC career if that is the road he prefers to go down.

Running Back

Adam Muema (Charter Oak, 5-9, 180, 4.62HT) -- And make no mistake about it, we have two verified heights and weights for this kid so if you read that he is 6-0...he’s not that. A physical downhill, between the tackles runner, should fit well in a pro-style offense that utilizes a two-back one tight end formations. He is not a speed burner! Lost his offers to Nevada Reno and Colorado State. Look for him to become a San Diego State Aztec pretty soon.

David Dash (A.B. Miller, 5-8, 159, 4.62) -- If there is a player that can pick up the eyes of college asst, coaches during practice week of the Inland Empire All-Star game this week, this could be one of the guys. A true home run hitting RB with legit speed. College coaches are a bit worried about his size, but he reportedly has an offer from Iowa St. He should be very interesting to watch this week.

Sedale Foster (J.W. North, 5-6 ½, 170, 4.50HT ) -- We were surprised to see that he was not selected for the All-Star game. However, it I can see where the selection committee to his teammate Schexayder over him. It’s such a shame that his kid is only 5-6 ½, because if he is 5-10, he’s offered. We are dealing with a home run hitter that can take the ball into the end zone at a moments notice. One of our top guys on our board that doesn’t have an offer or a trip set up. His senior tape was more than adequate and all anyone has to see was his game against Los Osos to be sold. JC’s should be jumping all over this kid in a hurry!…

Derrick Hawkins (Corona Santiago, 5-10, 198, 4.8e) -- One thing that we have found out in evaluating HS running backs, if they are wrestlers that means that they are good between the tackles runners. And that is what this kid is. Has a fair burst once he clears the first level, but he reminds me a lot of Muema. He is in wrestling right now (once again shining at 189 lbs.), just missed out on making the all-star team. Another that could do very well at the JC…if that is what he prefers.

Wide Receivers

Ify Umodu (South Hills, 6-2, 198, 4.98) -- A high ankle sprain prevented him from playing in the last two games of the season and it really hurt the Huskies. This is a pure outside receiver that is as athletic as they come. And there is no player that has seen his recruiting go off the charts more than this guy. When the month of December started, he had no trips or offers. As we begin the new year, he has trips set up to San Jose St, Portland St., and Villanova. Comes from a very athletic family that has two older brothers playing D-1 ball (Tobi - UCLA, Kebin, Air Force Academy)

Necho Beard (Rancho Verde, 6-0, 186, 4.56) -- This guy is all about speed and then some. He was part of the state qualifying relay team this past spring. He is an inside guy that can beat most outside linebackers because of his speed and athletism. Comes from a top-notch program and has a trip to New Mexico set up in mid January. Lots to like here.

Marcels Peoples (Corona Santiago, 5-8, 163, 4.70) -- Another that is a speed player that can stretch the field for more offenses. One thing that was really obvious when watch Santiago’s official game tape, this kid was making plays all over the place. He will be tripping to Northern Colorado in January and if he goes there, this would be a steal for him. Really like him a lot!

Chris Simpson (Corona Centennial, 6-2, 193, 4.7e) -- For the life of me, I can’t believe that this kid doesn’t have any offers. On tape, he is an outside receiver that reminds me a lot of Umodu. No the fastest cat out there, but he can play. Academics could be an issue here and some asst. coaches have expressed concerns about the way he practices. But, this is a nice player. Another I would have loved to have seen at the All-Star game.

Offensive Lineman

David Peterson (Redlands East Valley, 6-4, 255, 5.28) -- For all the attention that teammate Tyler Shreve has received this year, this guy can’t be too far behind. He has all the attributes you need to being a great college center. Size, physicality and he can snap the ball out of the gun very well. His senior tape was absolutely awesome. He has offers from New Mexico State, Nevada Reno, San Diego State and will be taking a trip to San Jose State in mid January. Looking forward to watching him practice this week.

Lamar Bratton (J.W. North, 6-1 ½, 268, 5.22) -- Has seen recruiting take off in the fall. He came into the season as our top non-offer prospect in the Inland Empire. Some coaches were turned off by his size, but he makes up for it was great technique and good physical play. He was the one player that gave Kaiser‘s Josh Shirley a total fit this season. Some seem him as a offensive guy, some as a defensive guy. I think he would make a great center at the next level. Reportedly has offers from Reno and UNLV. Looking forward to seeing him in action at the All-Star game,

Corin Brooks (Arlington, 6-3, 276, 5.12) -- We had a chance to work with this kid at the USC rising stars camp and was very impressed with the way this kid worked out. Competed well and ended up being the talk of the camp when all was said and done. Has solid tape and his academics, from what I have been told, are just fine. Disappointed to see that he was not playing in the all-star game this week. Very surprised to see he has no offers.

Patrick Kim (Ayala, 6-5, 265, 5.5e) -- This was a kid that we were a bit surprised to see that got an offer from UTEP early in the spring. We thought his tape was good, but it wasn’t all that good. And his senior tape early in the year was OK but not great. But his late season tape showed a lot and he has now emerged as a January prospect. Has a trip set up to San Jose State in January. On solid ground with us.

Nick Martin (Los Osos, 6-4e, 270e, 5.4e) -- Here is another lineman that had solid late game tape and will be a steal for a D-1 school. The first that you notice right away is that is technique is a lot better than it was his junior tape. Projects to being a guard at the next level, he is one that should be watched very closely during practice week for the all-star game. Reportedly has an offer from UNLV and will be tripping to San Jose St. in January.

Defensive Lineman

Eric Gorski (Corona Santiago, 6-3e. 260e, 5.3e) -- Didn’t think he was much of an offensive lineman and a change to the defensive line has made a nice difference in his recruiting. He has more than solid senior tape and is protected to being a 3-tech defensive tackle at the next level. Interesting prospect.


Ofa Fafita (Arroyo Valley, 5-10 ½, 207, 4.8e) -- Of all the players that are on the San Bernardino roster, this is the one player that we are looking forward to seeing practice this week. This kid is a stud. A boundary to boundary player, just love his effort and his hustle. He has offers from Hawaii, San Diego State and UNLV. I would not be surprised to see this guy see his recruiting take off this week. A stud!

Brandon Brown (Corona Centennial, 6-2, 235, 4.86) -- This was a kid that had all kinds of talk. And when we first saw him as a junior at the Nike Camp, he really passed the eyeball test quickly. But, then came the junior film, which was good but not great. And his senior film was good but not great. Was not selected for the all-star game. Has an offer from Idaho and SMU. Would love to him seen him once more.

Keith Smith (Charter Oak, 6-1, 216, 4.9e) -- This is a pure inside linebacker at the next level. He was selected as the CIF-SS Southeast Division Defensive Player of the Year, and a true pleasure to watch this season. He is a very physical player that plays football smart. It just seemed that where the ball was is where Keith Smith was. Sports offers from Reno and Air Force and tripped to Colorado (but didn’t get an offer when he left). Interesting to see where he lands in February.

Edward Todd (Colony ,5-11, 228, 5.00) -- Was voted to the league defensive MVP and I just love the way he plays the game. He plays fast and physical. When you watch Colony on game tape, this is the kid that just jumps out on film right away. Reportedly has academic issues, so that is why he has no offers. But, he is on a lot of boards and if he can straighten away his grades, he’ll get out.

Paul Seen (Norco, 6-0e, 220e, 4.9e) -- This is a kid that has been getting a lot of looks by colleges when the month of December is over, OLB that moves very well in space. Good physicality at the point of attack. Another that I would not be surprised to see his recruiting take off in January. Another that I was surprised was not selected for the all-star game.


Darian Johnson (Bishop Amat, 5-8 ½, 175, 4.80e) -- Of all the players in the San Gabriel Valley that are being looked at, I am so happy that this kid’s recruiting as taken off. All one has to look at is the game against St. Bonaventure to see this kid deserves to being offered. Has offers from Northern Arizona, New Mexico and has a trip set up to New Mexico State. He can cover and tackle. Those are tough players to find. Plays bigger than his size

Earnest Sayles (Corona Santiago, 6-2, 190, 4.8e) -- Plays very fast for his position. Love his senior tape and coaches are loving the tape as well. Has offers from UC Davis, Corona Santiago and UTEP. I could see him doing really well at the Air Force Academy.

John Hardy (Vista Murrieta, 6-0e, 160e, 4.75e) -- And while we are really interested to see Fafita play on Saturday night for the San Bernardino area all-star team, we are super interested in seeing this kid play for the Riverside area team. Long-narrow bodied kid with long arms. He is more of a zone corner, but his worth comes in special team. He is the best special teams player in the Inland Empire. Has an offer from Hawaii and could see his stock take off with a great week of practice.

Justin DeCoud (Riverside King, 5-10e, 175e, 4.7e) -- Comes from very nice pedigree as his cousin plays for the Atlanta Falcons. I thought he was super interesting after his junior tape and his senior tape is pretty darn good. Many coaches are just waiting for his highlight tape to get finished. For someone like him, he needs to have a great highlight tape for him to get offered. Another that I am surprised was not selected for the all-star game.

Multi Purpose Athlete

Jordan Canada (South Hills, 5-9e 195e, 4.8e) -- Didn’t play his senior year due to the CIF Transfer rules. But, his scrimmage tape was excellent against Corona Centennial and his junior tape was very impressive. Has an offer from New Mexico State and has a trip set up in January for Fresno State and has Portland State very interested in him too. A shame not to see him play his senior year.

Geoffrey Vaughns (South Hills, 5-10, 166, 4.58HT) -- He was selected the league MVP and was a consensus first-team All-CIF pick. Credit South Hills for using him all over the place. He can play RB, WR, CB and S. Academics can stop him from being offered, but if he drops to the JC level, he is a top-priority elite JC prospect. He’s that good.